Get em young. I don’t know any “mature” 18 year old, and I work with hundreds of them. Hell, 21 year old and I don’t know if I would’ve considered myself elder material.
Anony Mous
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2025**01**15**Ages For Ministerial Servants and Elders!
by Atlantis in2025-01-15-ages for ministerial servants and elders.. see page 2. .
https://pdfupload.io/docs/1b0b5c00 .
https://imgbox.com/p3a9yjmr.
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What Theme Song Should Be Played When You Walk Into a Room?
by Sea Breeze inthis could fun.
what song should be played when you walk into a room that best describes you?
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News of fires out of control in California
by ballistic inhope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
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Anony Mous
@Riley: The budget was not cut though. They spent it on having gay fire chiefs that were so fat, they admitted they were not fit to carry someone out of a burning house, and if that were the case then people had put themselves in that situation.
Perhaps you should look into it, massive reservoirs intended to provide water for houses had been drained in the ocean for no proven ecological benefit and in those areas homeowners were sued and fined for trimming trees by the state to appease a few treehugger associations. There hadn't been controlled burns in 3 years because global warming, Newsom even prevented Trump from providing federal water resources for the state when he was still in office.
This could've been prevented by cutting taxes and regulation and letting people and communities deal with their own tree and forest management instead of having it held up, in some places, since Newsom got into office.
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Do children still get destroyed at Armageddon?
by Anony Mous ini know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.
i just can't easily find reference to anything.
this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.
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Anony Mous
So they’re getting closer to the Christian message of salvation is for everyone.
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The abuse of JW org
by wozza inawhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.
i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.
his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.
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Anony Mous
@Kerry: we were talking about children but since you brought it up - 80% of contested family court cases include the allegation of abuse through a request for protection on the side of the female, only 5% of those prove to be substantiated sufficiently that it is further investigated.
These allegations are ‘standard language’ as they predispose the court towards the female when it comes to custody - basically, they are often used to exclude the father for months or years while the case is ongoing, and then the best interest of the child is often to maintain the status quo because it has been too long (9-24 months is typical) and the relationship is broken despite the fact that all this was legal footwork.
I agree with your statement about the EU becoming even more of a hellhole third world country because of mass immigration.
But third wave feminism and easy birth control has caused a lot of the problems women face today. If you accuse someone over a bad one night stand, then all other accusations become less believable as well. The problem starts with the choice to have serial one night stands with random strangers, it is not empowerment, you are objectifying yourself and men.
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The Greeks had a word for it, but the Watchtower didn't
by Nathan Natas ini recall as though it was only 60 years ago, sitting in the kingdom hall on those horrible chairs, learning of the four forms of love: agape, philia, storge and eros.. the watchtower never mentioned pragma.. pragma: this is a committed, compassionate love that often grows as two partners continue to cherish and care for each other.
this type of love is associated with being together for a long time.
in some cases, the passion of eros can grow into pragma over time, this forging a lasting bond.. i think i know why; the watchtower isn't into committed, compassionate, cherishing and caring, are they?.
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Anony Mous
@blondie: In the time of the Internet, the WTBTS has been frequently corrected and ridiculed for their archaic interpretation of both Hebrew and Greek text. A lot of what the modern WTBTS uses for 'research' is still the work from Franz-and-co in the 1950s-1970s when they were honestly busy with 'biblical research' and collected source material into large libraries, but time moves on, new things are discovered and they keep going back to the same dated topics and sources, many of which have been corrected.
Now all those databases are searchable with a few keystrokes and you can't just reference a single article or scientific journal, you are mandated to reference dozens, often contradictory and distill something useful out of them.
It is also a gateway for people 'doing their own research' into topics that are deeply religious and where the WTBTS is simply insufficient in their explanations.
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The abuse of JW org
by wozza inawhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.
i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.
his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.
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Anony Mous
The elders still don't report unless there is a 2-witness rule satisfied, from what I know that is still the case. If there is only 1 witness, they have to report to the branch and await instructions, which are nearly always to do nothing unless legal requirements which then must be done through an anonymous report that does not mention the JWs (basically the elder must report as a private citizen).
In many cases the police can find multiple witnesses, despite the elders not having 2 witnesses that voluntarily and at the same time come forward about the same event (which is the standard for the 2-witness rule).
I do believe the two-witness rule is to blame for the above, the elders should be mandatory reporters like every single other organization has learned in the past few decades, Catholic Church, Scouts, private and public healthcare workers, childcare, most Judeo-Christian denomination etc, all of them are now mandatory reporting even where jurisdictional it is not required - the only ones that are largely consistent in not reporting are Muslims, JWs, Mormons and various other sects or cults.
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Do children still get destroyed at Armageddon?
by Anony Mous ini know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.
i just can't easily find reference to anything.
this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.
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Anony Mous
@Touchofgrey: With all the interesting living situations these days, split households, divorced, adopted (knowingly or unknowningly) and the historical "you are never 100% sure who the father is" - who are "your children".
I'm just kind of wondering what the situation would be hypothetically if you are adopted but your biological parents are "saved", or if your adopted parents are saved but not your biological parents - that's all kinds of messed up regardless of how you cut it. Hi, I'm your child now, my parents are dead, or your child is dead now because their parents were destroyed.
In the end everybody is someone's child and not all those people are or were or could've been JWs, so does that mean everybody will be destroyed anyway?
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How did JWs arrive at a clearer understanding of what the Bible teaches than other Christian denominations?
by slimboyfat infor jws who believe that jehovah had a hand in reviving the truth in the nineteenth century this is enough explanation for how jws managed to achieve a closer approximation to early christian beliefs and practices than other groups.
but is there an explanation for this phenomenon that doesn’t rely on supernatural intervention?
new testament scholar james dunn explains the difficulty of interpreting the biblical texts in this way:.
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Anony Mous
I have a suspicion Ehrman is a JW. He’s definitely friendly towards and copies a lot of the whackadoodle ideas resulting from the Miller-Smith feud of the 19th century, only ceding where he would totally blow his credibility.
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The abuse of JW org
by wozza inawhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.
i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.
his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.
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Anony Mous
@Stephane: The elders aren't capable, either physically, legally or competently to collect the necessary evidence. You can often collect sufficient evidence from a single witness testimony to convict in criminal court (beyond a reasonable doubt), the problem is that they do not give the opportunity to victims, parents and others for a competent investigator to do this. Do you really want two window washers to handle your DNA evidence or do a rape kit? If you think it is traumatic now dealing with a JC, imagine the elders swabbing some young girl for evidence.